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Dave Clements
Hi All,

In the wake of the Carpentry TTT workshop not being scheduled for GCC2016, Mo Heydarian (CC'd here) suggested that perhaps we have a much lighter-weight session during GCC2016 training that covers best practices and resources for training with Galaxy. Mo and I scrambled our brains together and came up with this nomination:

  http://bit.ly/1LTdwtV

We would love to have feedback on this proposal, both specific and big picture.  The text of the nomination can easily be updated any time between now and next Monday, when voting opens.

This is an opportunity to gather best practices into a single place, and would be a friendly place to bring new trainers into the fold.

Also, please let me know if you'd be interested in helping teach this.

Thanks, and many thanks to Mo for making this happen,

Dave C
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Re: GCC2016 Topic Nomination: Galactically Speaking: Best Practices and Resources for Galaxy Training

Björn Grüning


Das ist wunderbar!

> Hi All,
>
> In the wake of the Carpentry TTT workshop not being scheduled for GCC2016,
> Mo Heydarian (CC'd here) suggested that perhaps we have a much
> lighter-weight session during GCC2016 training that covers best practices
> and resources for training with Galaxy. Mo and I scrambled our brains
> together and came up with this nomination:
>
>   http://bit.ly/1LTdwtV
>
> We would love to have feedback on this proposal, both specific and big
> picture.  The text of the nomination can easily be updated any time between
> now and next Monday, when voting opens.

I like it the GTN should participate actively. I consider this as first
"Train the Trainer" event, which is awesome!

> This is an opportunity to gather best practices into a single place, and
> would be a friendly place to bring new trainers into the fold.
>
> Also, please let me know if you'd be interested in helping teach this.

Dave, if you schedule is well enough, I will join ;)

> Thanks, and many thanks to Mo for making this happen,

Thanks Mo - you rock!
Bjoern

> Dave C
>
>
>
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Re: [SPAM] Re: GCC2016 Topic Nomination: Galactically Speaking: Best Practices and Resources for Galaxy Training

Hans-Rudolf Hotz
Hi Dave

I can only repeat what Bjoern already said:

- it is indeed "wunderbar"

- yes, this will help foster the GTN community

- yes, depending on the schedule, you can count me in

- and a big Thanks to Mo


Hans-Rudolf


On 10/19/2015 09:50 PM, Björn Grüning wrote:

>
>
> Das ist wunderbar!
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> In the wake of the Carpentry TTT workshop not being scheduled for GCC2016,
>> Mo Heydarian (CC'd here) suggested that perhaps we have a much
>> lighter-weight session during GCC2016 training that covers best practices
>> and resources for training with Galaxy. Mo and I scrambled our brains
>> together and came up with this nomination:
>>
>>    http://bit.ly/1LTdwtV
>>
>> We would love to have feedback on this proposal, both specific and big
>> picture.  The text of the nomination can easily be updated any time between
>> now and next Monday, when voting opens.
>
> I like it the GTN should participate actively. I consider this as first
> "Train the Trainer" event, which is awesome!
>
>> This is an opportunity to gather best practices into a single place, and
>> would be a friendly place to bring new trainers into the fold.
>>
>> Also, please let me know if you'd be interested in helping teach this.
>
> Dave, if you schedule is well enough, I will join ;)
>
>> Thanks, and many thanks to Mo for making this happen,
>
> Thanks Mo - you rock!
> Bjoern
>
>> Dave C
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [SPAM] Re: GCC2016 Topic Nomination: Galactically Speaking: Best Practices and Resources for Galaxy Training

Pratik Jagtap
I like the idea, Dave and Mo. I am in - if you see a role for me!

Cheers,
Pratik

Pratik Jagtap,
Managing Director, 
Center for Mass Spectrometry and Proteomics,
43 Gortner Laboratory, 
1479 Gortner Avenue, 
St. Paul, MN 55108      
Phone: 612-624-9275

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Hans-Rudolf Hotz <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Dave

I can only repeat what Bjoern already said:

- it is indeed "wunderbar"

- yes, this will help foster the GTN community

- yes, depending on the schedule, you can count me in

- and a big Thanks to Mo


Hans-Rudolf



On 10/19/2015 09:50 PM, Björn Grüning wrote:


Das ist wunderbar!

Hi All,

In the wake of the Carpentry TTT workshop not being scheduled for GCC2016,
Mo Heydarian (CC'd here) suggested that perhaps we have a much
lighter-weight session during GCC2016 training that covers best practices
and resources for training with Galaxy. Mo and I scrambled our brains
together and came up with this nomination:

   http://bit.ly/1LTdwtV

We would love to have feedback on this proposal, both specific and big
picture.  The text of the nomination can easily be updated any time between
now and next Monday, when voting opens.

I like it the GTN should participate actively. I consider this as first
"Train the Trainer" event, which is awesome!

This is an opportunity to gather best practices into a single place, and
would be a friendly place to bring new trainers into the fold.

Also, please let me know if you'd be interested in helping teach this.

Dave, if you schedule is well enough, I will join ;)

Thanks, and many thanks to Mo for making this happen,

Thanks Mo - you rock!
Bjoern

Dave C



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Re: [SPAM] Re: GCC2016 Topic Nomination: Galactically Speaking: Best Practices and Resources for Galaxy Training

Dave Clements
Hi all,

The votes have been compiled and in a pleasant surprise, this topic received more votes than any other topic. 

This puts me in a conundrum and I'm looking for feedback on how to resolve it. We usually offer the most popular topics twice. Splitting up popular topics makes presenting them more tractable, and attending them more rewarding.  However, this workshop is cast as a discussion, not a hands-on workshop and therefore the considerations are different.

Q: Should we offer this workshop twice, both times with the same content.

Yes
  • Smaller groups make for better and more interactive discussions
  • More people will be able to attend if it is offered twice.
  • We can use what we learn in the first session to improve the second session.
No
  • Only half the participants will participate in each discussion.  This will especially impact those attending the first session and they won't get benefit from the experience of those attending the second workshop.
Right now I'm leaning towards one big session (not sure which day - haven't got that far yet).  I figure instructors are not a timid bunch and that we'll get lots of discussion despite the large group size.

Your thoughts are welcome,

Dave C



On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Pratik Jagtap <[hidden email]> wrote:
I like the idea, Dave and Mo. I am in - if you see a role for me!

Cheers,
Pratik

Pratik Jagtap,
Managing Director, 
Center for Mass Spectrometry and Proteomics,
43 Gortner Laboratory, 
1479 Gortner Avenue, 
St. Paul, MN 55108      
Phone: 612-624-9275

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Hans-Rudolf Hotz <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Dave

I can only repeat what Bjoern already said:

- it is indeed "wunderbar"

- yes, this will help foster the GTN community

- yes, depending on the schedule, you can count me in

- and a big Thanks to Mo


Hans-Rudolf



On 10/19/2015 09:50 PM, Björn Grüning wrote:


Das ist wunderbar!

Hi All,

In the wake of the Carpentry TTT workshop not being scheduled for GCC2016,
Mo Heydarian (CC'd here) suggested that perhaps we have a much
lighter-weight session during GCC2016 training that covers best practices
and resources for training with Galaxy. Mo and I scrambled our brains
together and came up with this nomination:

   http://bit.ly/1LTdwtV

We would love to have feedback on this proposal, both specific and big
picture.  The text of the nomination can easily be updated any time between
now and next Monday, when voting opens.

I like it the GTN should participate actively. I consider this as first
"Train the Trainer" event, which is awesome!

This is an opportunity to gather best practices into a single place, and
would be a friendly place to bring new trainers into the fold.

Also, please let me know if you'd be interested in helping teach this.

Dave, if you schedule is well enough, I will join ;)

Thanks, and many thanks to Mo for making this happen,

Thanks Mo - you rock!
Bjoern

Dave C



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Re: [SPAM] Re: GCC2016 Topic Nomination: Galactically Speaking: Best Practices and Resources for Galaxy Training

Jennifer Hillman-Jackson
Good news!

I wonder if Galaxy training will one year become a track of its own. 

Galaxy-flavored training is specific. If the goal is to share resources, I could see the following being things we could share with eachother: Training in conferences (workshops), other training-specific sessions/workshops, use in education (lecture or training platform, event vs course material), professional skill development (academic/industry), and the like. 

Topics could include (combine some or not)
 
best practices
logistical requirements (compute, venue)
training resources (materials creation/sharing)
tutorial resources (materials creation/sharing)
organizing and promoting training resources in the wild (for trainer and USERS)
organizing and promoting workshops

or examples of any, a "How we do this" by GTN members or others in training community

Some ideas!

Jen

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On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Dave Clements <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

The votes have been compiled and in a pleasant surprise, this topic received more votes than any other topic. 

This puts me in a conundrum and I'm looking for feedback on how to resolve it. We usually offer the most popular topics twice. Splitting up popular topics makes presenting them more tractable, and attending them more rewarding.  However, this workshop is cast as a discussion, not a hands-on workshop and therefore the considerations are different.

Q: Should we offer this workshop twice, both times with the same content.

Yes
  • Smaller groups make for better and more interactive discussions
  • More people will be able to attend if it is offered twice.
  • We can use what we learn in the first session to improve the second session.
No
  • Only half the participants will participate in each discussion.  This will especially impact those attending the first session and they won't get benefit from the experience of those attending the second workshop.
Right now I'm leaning towards one big session (not sure which day - haven't got that far yet).  I figure instructors are not a timid bunch and that we'll get lots of discussion despite the large group size.

Your thoughts are welcome,

Dave C



On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Pratik Jagtap <[hidden email]> wrote:
I like the idea, Dave and Mo. I am in - if you see a role for me!

Cheers,
Pratik

Pratik Jagtap,
Managing Director, 
Center for Mass Spectrometry and Proteomics,
43 Gortner Laboratory, 
1479 Gortner Avenue, 
St. Paul, MN 55108      
Phone: <a href="tel:612-624-9275" value="+16126249275" target="_blank">612-624-9275

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Hans-Rudolf Hotz <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Dave

I can only repeat what Bjoern already said:

- it is indeed "wunderbar"

- yes, this will help foster the GTN community

- yes, depending on the schedule, you can count me in

- and a big Thanks to Mo


Hans-Rudolf



On 10/19/2015 09:50 PM, Björn Grüning wrote:


Das ist wunderbar!

Hi All,

In the wake of the Carpentry TTT workshop not being scheduled for GCC2016,
Mo Heydarian (CC'd here) suggested that perhaps we have a much
lighter-weight session during GCC2016 training that covers best practices
and resources for training with Galaxy. Mo and I scrambled our brains
together and came up with this nomination:

   http://bit.ly/1LTdwtV

We would love to have feedback on this proposal, both specific and big
picture.  The text of the nomination can easily be updated any time between
now and next Monday, when voting opens.

I like it the GTN should participate actively. I consider this as first
"Train the Trainer" event, which is awesome!

This is an opportunity to gather best practices into a single place, and
would be a friendly place to bring new trainers into the fold.

Also, please let me know if you'd be interested in helping teach this.

Dave, if you schedule is well enough, I will join ;)

Thanks, and many thanks to Mo for making this happen,

Thanks Mo - you rock!
Bjoern

Dave C



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Re: GCC2016 Topic Nomination: Galactically Speaking: Best Practices and Resources for Galaxy Training

Hans-Rudolf Hotz
In reply to this post by Dave Clements
Hi Dave

I am in favor of just one, big workshop as well. And I suggest this to
run as a special 'event' when no other training session is running, e.g.
on the evening of the first training day.

Although, this topic got the most votes, the session will be most
interesting for the trainers, and it would be a pity if not all
'trainers' could participate, since they are giving another session at
the same time.

Hans-Rudolf






On 11/09/2015 08:58 PM, Dave Clements wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The votes have been compiled and in a pleasant surprise, this topic
> received more votes than any other topic.
>
> This puts me in a conundrum and I'm looking for feedback on how to
> resolve it. We usually offer the most popular topics twice. Splitting up
> popular topics makes presenting them more tractable, and attending them
> more rewarding.  However, this workshop is cast as a discussion, not a
> hands-on workshop and therefore the considerations are different.
>
> *Q: Should we offer this workshop twice, both times with the same content.*
>
> *Yes*
>
>   * Smaller groups make for better and more interactive discussions
>   * More people will be able to attend if it is offered twice.
>   * We can use what we learn in the first session to improve the second
>     session.
>
> *No*
>
>   * Only half the participants will participate in each discussion.
>     This will especially impact those attending the first session and
>     they won't get benefit from the experience of those attending the
>     second workshop.
>
> Right now /I'm leaning towards one big session/ (not sure which day -
> haven't got that far yet).  I figure instructors are not a timid bunch
> and that we'll get lots of discussion despite the large group size.
>
> Your thoughts are welcome,
>
> Dave C
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Pratik Jagtap <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     I like the idea, Dave and Mo. I am in - if you see a role for me!
>
>     Cheers,
>     Pratik
>
>     Pratik Jagtap,
>     Managing Director,
>     Center for Mass Spectrometry and Proteomics,
>     43 Gortner Laboratory,
>     1479 Gortner Avenue,
>     St. Paul, MN 55108
>     Phone: 612-624-9275
>
>     On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Hans-Rudolf Hotz <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Dave
>
>         I can only repeat what Bjoern already said:
>
>         - it is indeed "wunderbar"
>
>         - yes, this will help foster the GTN community
>
>         - yes, depending on the schedule, you can count me in
>
>         - and a big Thanks to Mo
>
>
>         Hans-Rudolf
>
>
>
>         On 10/19/2015 09:50 PM, Björn Grüning wrote:
>
>
>
>             Das ist wunderbar!
>
>                 Hi All,
>
>                 In the wake of the Carpentry TTT workshop not being
>                 scheduled for GCC2016,
>                 Mo Heydarian (CC'd here) suggested that perhaps we have
>                 a much
>                 lighter-weight session during GCC2016 training that
>                 covers best practices
>                 and resources for training with Galaxy. Mo and I
>                 scrambled our brains
>                 together and came up with this nomination:
>
>                 http://bit.ly/1LTdwtV
>
>                 We would love to have feedback on this proposal, both
>                 specific and big
>                 picture.  The text of the nomination can easily be
>                 updated any time between
>                 now and next Monday, when voting opens.
>
>
>             I like it the GTN should participate actively. I consider
>             this as first
>             "Train the Trainer" event, which is awesome!
>
>                 This is an opportunity to gather best practices into a
>                 single place, and
>                 would be a friendly place to bring new trainers into the
>                 fold.
>
>                 Also, please let me know if you'd be interested in
>                 helping teach this.
>
>
>             Dave, if you schedule is well enough, I will join ;)
>
>                 Thanks, and many thanks to Mo for making this happen,
>
>
>             Thanks Mo - you rock!
>             Bjoern
>
>                 Dave C
>
>
>
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Re: GCC2016 Topic Nomination: Galactically Speaking: Best Practices and Resources for Galaxy Training

Dave Clements
Hi Hans-Rudolf, all,

Thanks for feedback on 1 versus 2.

Hmmm.  I kinda like this idea.  I think space is available on Sunday night, and the only conflicting event would be the hackathon(s) dinner and possibly some BoFs - although most of those will be Tuesday and Wednesday. 

It would make for a long day though.  Training ends at 6:30.  Dinner options are available close by (see the just created http://bit.ly/gcc2016map) so we could probably start at 7:45 and run until we are out of steam.  It's also a concern that those doing training on Monday are planning to use Sunday night for prep.*

Another option is Monday night, but there may be (our first ever) opening reception that night.

Let me take a look at options.

If anyone else has opinions on this (or 1 vs 2), please post here.

Thanks,

Dave C

* Not that any of us would wait until the night before to prepare training materials.  ;-)


On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Hans-Rudolf Hotz <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Dave

I am in favor of just one, big workshop as well. And I suggest this to run as a special 'event' when no other training session is running, e.g. on the evening of the first training day.

Although, this topic got the most votes, the session will be most interesting for the trainers, and it would be a pity if not all 'trainers' could participate, since they are giving another session at the same time.

Hans-Rudolf






On 11/09/2015 08:58 PM, Dave Clements wrote:
Hi all,

The votes have been compiled and in a pleasant surprise, this topic
received more votes than any other topic.

This puts me in a conundrum and I'm looking for feedback on how to
resolve it. We usually offer the most popular topics twice. Splitting up
popular topics makes presenting them more tractable, and attending them
more rewarding.  However, this workshop is cast as a discussion, not a
hands-on workshop and therefore the considerations are different.

*Q: Should we offer this workshop twice, both times with the same content.*

*Yes*

  * Smaller groups make for better and more interactive discussions
  * More people will be able to attend if it is offered twice.
  * We can use what we learn in the first session to improve the second
    session.

*No*

  * Only half the participants will participate in each discussion.
    This will especially impact those attending the first session and
    they won't get benefit from the experience of those attending the
    second workshop.

Right now /I'm leaning towards one big session/ (not sure which day -
haven't got that far yet).  I figure instructors are not a timid bunch
and that we'll get lots of discussion despite the large group size.

Your thoughts are welcome,

Dave C



On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Pratik Jagtap <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

    I like the idea, Dave and Mo. I am in - if you see a role for me!

    Cheers,
    Pratik

    Pratik Jagtap,
    Managing Director,
    Center for Mass Spectrometry and Proteomics,
    43 Gortner Laboratory,
    1479 Gortner Avenue,
    St. Paul, MN 55108
    Phone: 612-624-9275

    On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Hans-Rudolf Hotz <[hidden email]
    <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

        Hi Dave

        I can only repeat what Bjoern already said:

        - it is indeed "wunderbar"

        - yes, this will help foster the GTN community

        - yes, depending on the schedule, you can count me in

        - and a big Thanks to Mo


        Hans-Rudolf



        On 10/19/2015 09:50 PM, Björn Grüning wrote:



            Das ist wunderbar!

                Hi All,

                In the wake of the Carpentry TTT workshop not being
                scheduled for GCC2016,
                Mo Heydarian (CC'd here) suggested that perhaps we have
                a much
                lighter-weight session during GCC2016 training that
                covers best practices
                and resources for training with Galaxy. Mo and I
                scrambled our brains
                together and came up with this nomination:

                http://bit.ly/1LTdwtV

                We would love to have feedback on this proposal, both
                specific and big
                picture.  The text of the nomination can easily be
                updated any time between
                now and next Monday, when voting opens.


            I like it the GTN should participate actively. I consider
            this as first
            "Train the Trainer" event, which is awesome!

                This is an opportunity to gather best practices into a
                single place, and
                would be a friendly place to bring new trainers into the
                fold.

                Also, please let me know if you'd be interested in
                helping teach this.


            Dave, if you schedule is well enough, I will join ;)

                Thanks, and many thanks to Mo for making this happen,


            Thanks Mo - you rock!
            Bjoern

                Dave C



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